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Newsflash: vegans don't enjoy sex with carnivores

Reports are appearing all over the internet about a 'new breed of vegan that has evolved in New Zealand: vegansexuals. This is the name given to people who refuse to sleep with people who eat meat.

To an outside audience, this must sound hilarious. But is it really all that much of a shock? Plenty of non-smokers refuse to date cigarette addicts, and I've known plenty of couples who share similar dietary habits and other lifestyles.

There are tea-total couples, boozy couples, vegetarian couples and - surprise surprise - vegan couples. I believe the phrase used to be 'birds of a feather flock together'.

The excitement about vegansexuals seems to have started with one particular soundbite taken from a this article, in which vegan Nichola Kriek commented that "when you are vegan or vegetarian, you are very aware that when people eat a meaty diet, they are kind of a graveyard for animals." As a veggie, I can see what she was trying to say in a slightly more alarmist way than is strictly necessary -- she's simply making the point that if you've made such a decision, it helps if those close to you can respect it, and the best way they can do this is by sharing it.

So do you agree? If you avoid meat, dairy products or any other foods, will you only date people with the same diet?

Posted by Abi on July 31, 2007 in Food & drink, Green News, Vegetarian and Vegan living | Permalink

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I've been vegan for 8 months, and I've been with my omnivorous boyfriend for 2 and a half years.

It does upset me sometimes that he doesn't share my values, because we share so much else in common, but it does not make me love him any less to be certain.

I suppose it must be different for people on the dating scene. I can understand have a preference for fellow vegans. Is anyone really shocked when a Jewish person marries another Jew? Or when liberals marry liberals?

Birds of a feather do indeed flock together, but opposites can attract just as much.

Posted by: Courtney | August 1, 2007 5:31 AM

I agree. :)

Posted by: Meredith | August 1, 2007 5:20 PM

I can see that not all my partners will be vegan since that would probably limit my choice a lot. It is however, an excellent starting point :)

I could sleep with a meat eater (as long as he had brushed his teeth!) but I would probably find it very frustrating to have a relationship and love someone who did not show empathy and compassion towards other animals (human or not!)...

I have meat a couple of people that eat meat VERY ocassionally and they were VERY accepting of my veganism. They have their own reasons for eating meat and (although I don't share their views) I could probably accept them as long as the meat was not in my fridge or paid with my money.

Posted by: Isha | August 2, 2007 9:53 AM

i hate to burst your bubble but plants absorb the nutrients from dead animals.....

so uh also given the choice between eating a animal corpse and 2week old salad.... ya its a hard choice

i can respect the choice but i think that being omnivorous is a natural as a lion eating meat. i think that we should respect nature and not be cruel.

Little background - i grew up around people who had strong native american backgrounds; People who would hunt (bow only) and would use all the animal.

Posted by: Scott | August 3, 2007 4:14 PM

I think the bigger cruelty is to be close minded and judgemental of other human beings. So, not a surprise that people are still choosing their partners with their noses high in the sky, but shameful that we discriminate people so deeply.

Posted by: MJ | August 4, 2007 6:10 AM

I was vegan for over 30 years - but I think the idea of refusing to have a romantic relationship with a person who eats a 100% natural foods, certified organically grown diet - dumping a person with a fantastic personality - all because they eat small portions of certified organically grown dairy products/eggs is elitist and snobbish.

Like I said - I was a devoted vegan for over 30 years - I didn't even eat honey or wear wool because they are animal products - even though wearing wool or eating honey still keeps the bees and sheep alive.

In my 30 years of vegan experience - there are ALL KINDS OF VEGANS - sure, I met vegans who faithfully ate 100% certified organically grown natural foods - but I have also known JUNK FOOD VEGANS who shop in the supermarket and eat refined, processed food full of junky ingredients. I have met fake vegans who won't eat animal protein, but they do psychedelic drugs, smoke cigarettes, drink coffee, smoke pot, etc. Just how health conscious is that? How does being a "fake vegan" who eats junk food cut it?

If I met a really fantastic man who was glorious with a great personality, if he was a spiritual person and politically progressive and that man ate very small portions of organically raised eggs/dairy products - even if he was not vegan - but still ate 100% natural foods, shopped for groceries at a co-op - SURE yes, DANG! I would be his girlfriend.

I've also met a few vegans who ate totally pure diet - but they had cranky personalities and no honor in their behavior. Just being a vegan does NOT make a man an appropriate romantic partner.

I would NEVER want a boyfriend who ate junk food, fast food or processed food - because I am health conscious - but if a really terrific guy who had an unhealthy diet wanted to LEARN about natural foods, organics, nutrition - I would be OPEN MINDED enough to give him a chance if he wanted to change his diet.

Unless you were raised by generations of vegan ancestors - your DNA gene pool has animal protein in it - being so judgemental and closed minded.

Where do you draw the line? Would you refuse to be FRIENDS with folks who are not vegan? How on earth will non-vegan people ever learn about healthy nutition that is cruelty free if snobbish vegans live in a plastic bubble of snobbery and only socialize with other vegans?

Tolerance and respect for other people's lifestyles is so important and THAT is probably the most important thing to remember.

Posted by: arabella cavendish | August 4, 2007 9:15 AM

I'm an omnivore and I have dated vegan/vegetarian girls without any conflict regarding dietary habits. Our diets are important but they don't define us as people.

Posted by: stuart | August 7, 2007 5:32 PM

I'd never be intimate with a carnivore. It just would disgust me to no end.

Posted by: | August 7, 2007 7:10 PM

I'm vegetarian for 10 years and a vegan in the last 3 and in present day I couldn't imagine myself having intimate relationship with omnivores...it's a matter of almost a kind of...visceral awareness I think...LOL

Posted by: Sofia | August 7, 2007 11:46 PM

Fake vegan if you smoke pot???? Eh? What do they have to do with each other?

Posted by: Maria Lester | August 17, 2007 2:10 PM

Ok, ok, ok. . . I'm a vegan, my husband's an omnivore outside of the house, but a vegetarian while at home, we'll be raising our children vegan, and we're both very active in the activist community.

Does it bother me that he can still find excuses to eat meat? Of course! Do I think he fully understands the breadth of torture the animals and the environment take from people who eat an omnivore diet? No. He's doing research at his own pace, and only buys from farm-raised organic butchers/eateries. I know he's doing his best, and proudly shows me off as his "sexy vegan wife". He sings veganism praise (everything from how wonderful I smell, to how creative I cook, to how impressed and proud he is of my passion for standing up for what I believe, to how healthy I am in comparison and how less often I am sick than him). The way I see it, eventually he'll put two and two together and realize the true impact of his actions and change at least some of his ways.

But even if he doesn't. He's as respectful and supportive as anyone could ask for in a partner. Would I leave him because he eats meat? No. But I also ask that he brushes his teeth after coming home or eating anything "offensive". But he asks me to do the same thing with onion breath and peanut butter, so it all works out in the end.

Also, I am a vegan pot smoker, but smoke home-grown organic pot from a vegan grower. I usually use a vaporizer to eliminate the harmful effects of smoke and tar. I encourage MJ to look into the Volcano Herbal Vaporizer.

Also the Shamanism of homegrown organic psychedelic mushrooms is worth a read too (look into Mazatecs tribe in Mexico). My decision to become vegan was on a traditional Mexican Mazatec Shaman "trip".

Posted by: VeganVixxen | September 3, 2007 2:52 PM

Sorry, not MJ but "arabella cavendish" should look into the Volcano Vaporizer for pot and Mexican Mazatec tribal mushrooms.

Posted by: VeganVixxen | September 3, 2007 2:55 PM

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